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Old 09-03-2005   #1
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starter wont turnover but has power

This is the problem. The old starter seem to be dead after i ran my car for about 10min. i shut it down, i tried to start it back up and had nothing at the key, So I put the new starter in today.And guess what, it did the same thing which was nothing. I took the new starter back out I figured maybe I got a bad starter. I went over to the part store, they did a test check and it worked fine. So I went back home, put the starter back in and again nothing, I checked to see if I had power going to the starter and I did have power at the starter. Anyone know what else to look for? Its a 1988 350 TPI with chip in key automatic tranny.
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Old 09-03-2005   #2
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

Sounds like a VATS problem. When you turn the key to the ON position, does the Security light come on and stay on? It's supposed to Come on for a few seconds and then turn off.
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Old 09-03-2005   #3
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

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Sounds like a VATS problem. When you turn the key to the ON position, does the Security light come on and stay on? It's supposed to Come on for a few seconds and then turn off.
MY Security light doesnt come on,Is there anyway to bypass the vats?
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Old 09-03-2005   #4
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

yes you can bypass the vats, there are some wires in the driver side kick panel by the pedals that you have to jumper. I don't have vats on my car so i'm not sure how to do it. Just head over to thirdgen.org and i'm sure you can find how to do it there. Last I knew, they only used the vats from 89 and up. Your car is an 87 with an 88 setup?
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Old 09-03-2005   #5
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

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yes you can bypass the vats, there are some wires in the driver side kick panel by the pedals that you have to jumper. I don't have vats on my car so i'm not sure how to do it. Just head over to thirdgen.org and i'm sure you can find how to do it there. Last I knew, they only used the vats from 89 and up. Your car is an 87 with an 88 setup?
This car i have is an 88 formula, the GTA dont have the VATs,so i dont know what year this vats is from.I bought the car a few weeks ago,so i really dont know the story with this car yet.Thanks for the help so far.
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

and you're sure that car has the vats system on it? it does sound like a pain in the ass vats problem though
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Old 09-03-2005   #7
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

Does your key have a black square on the shaft of the key? And 1988 GTA's do have VATS
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Does your key have a black square on the shaft of the key? And 1988 GTA's do have VATS
It has a square with a point contact ,it does look like the newew style VAT keys
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

thats VATS alright... I would go to thirdgen.org like previously mentioned.. they have a load of information on there
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Old 09-10-2005   #10
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

I had that same problem a couple weeks ago. I went out in the morning to go to work and turned the key and nothing happened. I had all electronics, but the car wouldn't even turn over. I too thought it was the starter. After a few minutes of trying the car started right up like nothing was wrong and I haven't had any problems with it since. It was weird.
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Old 09-11-2005   #11
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Re: starter wont turnover but has power

that's the key not being read by the vats system, vats is shitty if you ask me.. i'm glad i don't have it, i would disable it if i did. A remote kill switch is MUCH more effective then any VATS security system.
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