Headlights not going down

Brianlibby791 · 12-02-2015

my gta's headlights wont go back in... they go up and the motors for it still go on, it just doesnt go down. i tried doing it manually but that still did not work. Please help

rhomanski · 12-03-2015

There is a little black plastic box mounted on the firewall beside the brake booster with a couple plugs, that controls the headlights. If they both started doing it at the same time, I would look there first.

With mine one started not coming up but then would come up again when you turned them on again. Then the other one started not coming up. One night at lunch they both refused to come up for about 3 cycles of the switch. That's when I broke down and replaced both motors. If they both had refused to move at the same time out of the blue, as you describe, I would have gone for the relay box.

DynoDave · 12-03-2015

But would a failure in the control module cause him to not be able to lower them manually? I admit, simultaneous mechanical failures seems a long-shot, but from the facts he's given us, it seems like he ought to be able to lower them using the knobs.

1badGTA · 12-03-2015

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Originally Posted by DynoDave

But would a failure in the control module cause him to not be able to lower them manually? I admit, simultaneous mechanical failures seems a long-shot, but from the facts he's given us, it seems like he ought to be able to lower them using the knobs.

when I got my car both motors stopped working at pretty close to the same time. When I opened the motors they both had the plastic dust from the white bushings. Replaced the bushings in both of them.

rhomanski · 12-03-2015

If your not used to them, the mechanical lower can take a little bit to work and you may think it's not working. Mine went at the same time but they gave warnings. First one wouldn't come up, then when I cycled the switch it would but the other didn't. Cycle again and probably both would, maybe. Until finally neither came up for three tries, on the fourth try they both came up. That's when I got off my butt and changed the motors. They were operating different though, not in unison as he was saying. His complaint is vague and maybe I'm reading more into it than he meant.

Brianlibby791 · 02-28-2016

Update: I got one headlight to go down but it does not lock in place, i can just pull it up by hand, as well as it will not go back up with the motors. I also figured out that the switch is no good. Is there any good place that i can get one?

***FrankieRider2*** · 03-04-2016

First up.... welcome to The Source Page! I don't believe the switches are available from GM now, Brian but Auto Zone shows a brand new switch on their app that retails for 16.00.

Brianlibby791 · 03-05-2016

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Originally Posted by FrankieRider2

First up.... welcome to The Source Page! I don't believe the switches are available from GM now, Brian but Auto Zone shows a brand new switch on their app that retails for 16.00.

Thank you! I will be sure to check with my local Auto Zone.

89JerseyGTA · 03-14-2016

That's awesome that AZ has those,

http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...SW235/image/3/

89-5.7GTA · 03-14-2016

RockAuto lists them also

12-02-2015	#1
Brianlibby791 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7	Headlights not going down my gta's headlights wont go back in... they go up and the motors for it still go on, it just doesnt go down. i tried doing it manually but that still did not work. Please help

12-03-2015	#2
rhomanski The Born Loser Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southside Batesville Arkansas Posts: 396 GTA Year: 1988 GTA Engine: 350 TPI Automatic	Re: Headlights not going down There is a little black plastic box mounted on the firewall beside the brake booster with a couple plugs, that controls the headlights. If they both started doing it at the same time, I would look there first. With mine one started not coming up but then would come up again when you turned them on again. Then the other one started not coming up. One night at lunch they both refused to come up for about 3 cycles of the switch. That's when I broke down and replaced both motors. If they both had refused to move at the same time out of the blue, as you describe, I would have gone for the relay box. __________________ A Country Is Built On Cooperation An Empire Is Built On Slaves

12-03-2015	#3
DynoDave Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 253	Re: Headlights not going down But would a failure in the control module cause him to not be able to lower them manually? I admit, simultaneous mechanical failures seems a long-shot, but from the facts he's given us, it seems like he ought to be able to lower them using the knobs. __________________ *DynoDave* 1988 Pontiac Trans Am POCI #72200

12-03-2015	#5
rhomanski The Born Loser Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southside Batesville Arkansas Posts: 396 GTA Year: 1988 GTA Engine: 350 TPI Automatic	Re: Headlights not going down If your not used to them, the mechanical lower can take a little bit to work and you may think it's not working. Mine went at the same time but they gave warnings. First one wouldn't come up, then when I cycled the switch it would but the other didn't. Cycle again and probably both would, maybe. Until finally neither came up for three tries, on the fourth try they both came up. That's when I got off my butt and changed the motors. They were operating different though, not in unison as he was saying. His complaint is vague and maybe I'm reading more into it than he meant. __________________ A Country Is Built On Cooperation An Empire Is Built On Slaves

02-28-2016	#6
Brianlibby791 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7	Re: Headlights not going down Update: I got one headlight to go down but it does not lock in place, i can just pull it up by hand, as well as it will not go back up with the motors. I also figured out that the switch is no good. Is there any good place that i can get one?

03-04-2016	#7
*FrankieRider2* Site Administrator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Central Arkansas Posts: 2,233 GTA Year: 1988 GTA Engine: 350 TPI Automatic	Re: Headlights not going down First up.... welcome to The Source Page! I don't believe the switches are available from GM now, Brian but Auto Zone shows a brand new switch on their app that retails for 16.00. __________________ Frankie Rider, 2 Administrator The GTA Source Page E-Mail

03-14-2016	#9
89JerseyGTA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 427	Re: Headlights not going down That's awesome that AZ has those, http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...SW235/image/3/ __________________ [/SIGPIC] 89 GTA 350 1990 Iroc Vert 305 Previous cars 69 Camaro (81 to 84) 78 Trans Am(84 to 86) 84 Trans Am (86 to 88)

03-14-2016	#10
89-5.7GTA Tony Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rocky River Ohio Posts: 304 GTA Year: 1989 GTA Engine: 350 TPI Automatic	Re: Headlights not going down RockAuto lists them also __________________ L98 700R4 3.27

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