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Old 11-27-2012   #21
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Re: Can a GTA be considered a GTA if....

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Two questions to pose:

1) What then makes a GTA a GTA? (Y84 not withstanding as you will see that lists a number of specifics).

2) If you replaced your brain, heart and lungs with cybernetic devices, are you still human?
It was fun to kick it up a notch. Do you approve Louvers?

Seriously, yes I agree it will still be a GTA. The comments on re-sale value are also extremely valid. I have seen some mods which are not well thought out and are dangerous, damaging and down-right stupid. On the other hand, I have seen mods which were beautiful and documented.

If you want to mod then at least document. I hate having to sort out some previous work to fix problems that were simply bypassed and not fixed. My '84 T/A is a case in point.
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Old 11-28-2012   #22
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Two things are bugging me a little here.
1. I keep reading L98 and 350. Let's not forget about the 305 GTAs please.
2. Re-sale value. On very few, low mileage cars being original is a major factor on pricing. But...How many of us have all original cars (or ones that can easily be put back to stock) and have low enough mileage to demand a high asking price? Let's face it, most of us have either a driver quality car or a beater that we either intend to "fix up" or are in the process of improving upon.
Project OVRMYHD here is the perfect example I think, even if it might win a high mileage competition on these boards.
When we found her again she had 253,000+ hard miles on the clock and was maybe another year or less away from being dragged out from under a tree by a wrecker and hauled straight to the scrap yard.
Sentimental value aside, what would you guys rather have seen done? Who wants to see another GTA parted and crushed? Restoring her to stock specifications with those kind of miles made no sense as she would be worth less than your average driver GTA and far less than the investment required. Doing the minimum necessary to get her roadworthy again was even more senseless. Who among us likes to see dilapidated GTAs limping down the highway?
There was only 1 investment in our case that made sense (whether Dad agreed with me on not)...Save the car and take her back to what Dad loved so much about her in the first place.
1. He thought she was beautiful! (Before sitting dead under a tree for years.)
2. He loved her speed but always wanted more.
3. He loved driving it with the t-tops off and tossing it into the curves and hearing the rumble from the exhaust.
4. He loved winning trophies at the track. (Well, ok, he loved beating the other car to the finish line much more I think.)
5. He just plain loved the car after putting nearly 150,000 miles on the clock.
So, bigger, faster, meaner and nicer was the only way to go. She was never going to bring $50,000 at Haggerty's anyway and now I wouldn't trade what we've (re-)created for a million bucks. (Seriously)
The way I see it the investment was not in the car, it was in my Father. I have the rest of my life to worry about financial gain, but only the rest of his to Thank him for all he did for his family. He couldn't give me everything I wanted growing up, but he gave me everything I needed. More kids should grow up that way. Thanks Dad.
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Old 11-28-2012   #23
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Everyone should have a son like him !
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Old 11-28-2012   #24
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proskills. very nice story. I agree with mile you do what you want and make your dad happy. if I had found my 86ta I wld do similar. I loved that car bit got something better and want my son to have it when I pass away. I am 45 so I hope that is a while away! I will keep it till then and he knows how much I love the car and when we cruise it is a special time for both of us. I hope to take him to the TA nats next year with bad GTA and make it a special time. he has enjoyed winning trophies with it and helping me prep for shows. daughter helped me rebuild the headlight motors this year I know you will always think of your dad when you drive it when he is in the big race track in the sky!
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Old 11-28-2012   #25
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Thanks for the sentiment 1Bad. I'm glad someone gets it. I pray that the good times with your kids lasts forever, and if your GTA figures in there, all the better. Your GTA is a real beauty. When I was ready to buy, I looked high and low for a black one. Couldn't find one within a couple hundred miles. I found the Gunmetal gray with 14,000 miles on it about 100 miles from home. I was very adamant about the t-tops and L98. See ya on the forums !
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Old 11-28-2012   #26
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I looked for about 3 years for a black GTA with t tops and low miles. found one in North Dakota 89 350 with 40k and this one in Cleveland being in Ohio I figured what the hey I wld go 5speed wish they had black interior but close enuf. I am really glad I got a 5 speed though. your wld kill mine on a track but I promised my son I wld never race it. I used to race my 86 on the street. I was so stupid and lucky to be alive. I know one day our cars will be sought after. when guys my age retire. Rey may not have the money now or even then but they will buy. I just bought mine early. I love the gunmetal cars. I worked in college with a guy who had one with a blower. we were car lot boys and got to park the f bodies and he vetted for a Chevy dealer. I didn't have mine but had sold it one year after my dad got it for me. insurance was killing dad. hard to see my co worker with the GTA. missed my TA bad. you can see my TA in my albums
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Old 11-29-2012   #27
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the car will always be a gta no matter what you do to it... my GTA was bone stock when i first got it back in 2006... since then i have heavily modded mine and made to how i want it to be..... i have no plans on ever selling it....




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Old 11-29-2012   #28
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Re: Can a GTA be considered a GTA if....

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the car will always be a gta no matter what you do to it... my GTA was bone stock when i first got it back in 2006... since then i have heavily modded mine and made to how i want it to be..... i have no plans on ever selling it....




Nice car.. just two suggestions.. ignore them if you want.. I would use lug covers on the lugs to black them out (not chrome) and use some GTA black center caps. if I were you.. which I am not
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Old 11-29-2012   #29
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If I were him I would post some videos consisting of smokey burnouts!
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Old 11-29-2012   #30
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I'm sure there is a video with some good smokey burnouts around here somewhere. Now lets see, where did I put that thing?
Oh yeah, here's one! Another is sig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyHMF76M8-o
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Old 11-29-2012   #31
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Nice car.. just two suggestions.. ignore them if you want.. I would use lug covers on the lugs to black them out (not chrome) and use some GTA black center caps. if I were you.. which I am not
actually i have been wanting to switch to black lug nut caps.... and i would like to get a paint job... same color just needs paint.... then i would be mostly done with it... its not my daily driver so i will get to those in time...
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Old 11-29-2012   #32
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^^^Your link isn't working wildbird.
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Old 11-29-2012   #33
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awesome video, wishing you would pan up the whole time during the burnout though :P
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Old 11-30-2012   #34
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really nice car Wildbird ! I like your fb page Sean.
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Old 11-30-2012   #35
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awesome video, wishing you would pan up the whole time during the burnout though :P
Yeah, sorry about that. Nobody wishes I hadn't screwed that up more than me I was pre-occupied giving the wife hand signals to spin 'em faster.
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really nice car Wildbird ! I like your fb page Sean.
Thanks! I created that because my girlfriend was sick of only seeing Trans Am posts on my facebook, so i made the page to put everything there and she never has to see it.
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Old 12-02-2012   #37
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Merc3065 is absolutely correct and hasn't even mentioned the liability or criminal charges that you will incur if your ill-prepared hi-horsepower ride causes death or injury to others. Know a few personal injury lawyers that would gladly go after the hi-po idiots and put them in the poorhouse for the rest of thier lives.
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if your ill-prepared hi-horsepower ride causes death or injury to others. Know a few personal injury lawyers that would gladly go after the hi-po idiots and put them in the poorhouse for the rest of thier lives.
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Please define "ill-prepared" and "hi-po idiots".
My experience is that your typical high dollar modded car is leaps and bounds ahead of your stocker when it comes to all aspects of performance and therefore safety. Our car for example, is made of top quality parts which were installed by a true specialist and professional mechanic. The GTA's abilities to not only go fast, but also to stop, turn, and stay together in abusing situations far exceeds that of your typical barely maintained stocker. Just sayin.
Any "idiot" can drive too fast and injure people especially if their car is in a dilapidated state.
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Old 12-08-2012   #39
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Ive upgraded the motor in mine, but it's the same block that it came from the factory with...it's just not a 350 anymore. I don't have any plans of getting rid of my car anytime soon so I will continue to "improve" my car, but I still have most of the original parts so if I chose to put it back to stock it wouldn't be too big of a deal. It'd just have a more powerful L98 than a stock L98.
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I have just finished fitting an ls1 to mine, it's definatly still a GTA, just now it's as fast as it looks.
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