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Old 06-18-2010   #41
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

I have yet to see an 88 with 5.7 and factory t-tops.

1987 seems to be the only year that you could not get that combo in the US but could get it on export cars.
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Old 06-22-2010   #42
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

Wow, I looked at the date of the original post and we're back to 2002!!!

To be more recent, Wes is right.

Living in Canada, I almost bought a 1987 5.7L GTA with CC1 T-tops, so that is a given. For 1988, other than a 5.0L engine, I have yet to come across a 5.7L with t-roofs. I don't think even with C&C T-tops that combo existed. Unless Frankie, Lou or CompNine have an answer, I can forward the question on to Geroge Zapora at GM Canada's Vintage Vehicle Services to see if they have any knowlege.
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Old 06-22-2010   #43
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

Yes, there was a 1988 5.7L GTA with the C&C T-Tops (aftermarket) as I seen it on eBay several years ago. It was a Notchback.

I have the VIN for the car, but it doesn't help since C&C T-Tops are aftermarket and that means it won't have any supporting evidence in the VIN or SPID because it was done as an aftermarket.

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the SPID sheet.

But here's the car:


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http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x2.JPG
http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x3.JPG
http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x4.JPG
http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x5.JPG
http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x6.JPG
http://www.gtanotchback.com/misc/88gtanotchcc1l98x7.JPG

I X'ed out the VIN since I'm posting this on a public forum, but you can see it has an 8 for 350 TPI. I still have the entire VIN if it's needed.

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Wow, I looked at the date of the original post and we're back to 2002!!!

To be more recent, Wes is right.

Living in Canada, I almost bought a 1987 5.7L GTA with CC1 T-tops, so that is a given. For 1988, other than a 5.0L engine, I have yet to come across a 5.7L with t-roofs. I don't think even with C&C T-tops that combo existed. Unless Frankie, Lou or CompNine have an answer, I can forward the question on to Geroge Zapora at GM Canada's Vintage Vehicle Services to see if they have any knowlege.
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Old 06-22-2010   #44
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

I don't believe there were any restrictions as far as C&C t-tops were concerned. I have seen numerous 87 and 88 5.7 cars with C&C t-tops.
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Old 06-22-2010   #45
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

there is now cus i hav it. i love being the guy with a gta 5 speed. t tops and leather. digital gauges n all. i did a 305 to 350 swap. id say this car is a steal at any price any mileage. i got mine fr a grand n did the motor swap myself. but yea its rare. check out the garage. not even the sourcepages readers hav one with pics. til i get some pics but hey mines a restoration. let save these gta's n be the new gen hot rodders!
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Old 06-22-2010   #46
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

the pics show an automatic it looks like. did u say it was a 5 speed?
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Old 06-23-2010   #47
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

This thread is really about factory cars

There was no 350/5.7L engine with a manual transmission made available to the public for the ThirdGen (not speaking of the Firehawk).

This discussion turned into asking if there is any factory 1987/1988 GTAs with the 350 and factory T-Tops. Due to EPA regulations, the 1987/1988 GTA with the 5.7L and factory T-Tops did not exist.

However, there are some factory Canadian 1987 GTAs with the 5.7 and factory T-Tops. Canadian market was slightly different. However, there does not appear to be any 1988 GTAs with the 5.7 and factory T-Tops - atleast that we can find or are aware of. There are some 1988 GTAs with the 5.7L and aftermarket (C&C) T-tops. The pictures of the black GTA Notchback posted above are from the latter category.

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there is now cus i hav it. i love being the guy with a gta 5 speed. t tops and leather. digital gauges n all. i did a 305 to 350 swap. id say this car is a steal at any price any mileage. i got mine fr a grand n did the motor swap myself. but yea its rare. check out the garage. not even the sourcepages readers hav one with pics. til i get some pics but hey mines a restoration. let save these gta's n be the new gen hot rodders!
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the pics show an automatic it looks like. did u say it was a 5 speed?
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Old 06-23-2010   #48
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

Thanks, Jeremy, for your posting.

Wes, since the C & C hatch roofs were aftermarket, it would seem to me that there would have been no restrictions on them whatsoever? Am I mistaken?
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Old 06-23-2010   #49
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

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Thanks, Jeremy, for your posting.

Wes, since the C & C hatch roofs were aftermarket, it would seem to me that there would have been no restrictions on them whatsoever? Am I mistaken?
That's what I would think.

If the main reason behind Pontiac not offering t-tops with the 5.7 was weight and the CAFE mpg rating, then what a buyer or dealer does with it once it gets to the dealership really doesnt matter
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Old 06-24-2010   #50
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

I may have looked out of place and stating the obvious with my previous post. When I read your comment, below, I read it as applying to both C&C/aftermarket and CC1 (factory) as both I'd consider "T-Tops". I may have read too far into the "haven't come across any 1988 5.7t-tops cars" comment as meaning both aftermarket or factory.

Probably also because I've seen so few C&C T-Tops on 1988 GTA/Trans Ams with the 5.7L.

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I haven't come across any 1988 5.7/t-tops cars. There was a discussion about this a while back and I remember Frankie saying that he has never come across one either.
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I don't believe there were any restrictions as far as C&C t-tops were concerned. I have seen numerous 87 and 88 5.7 cars with C&C t-tops.
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Old 06-24-2010   #51
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Re: How rare are 88 GTA 5 speed with 5.7 & t tops?

Here is a 5.0/manual notch. Too many miles for me though.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/cto/1804847995.html
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