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FrankieRider2
09-04-2005, 03:04 AM
I have been getting photos from a fellow now (several times, in fact) trying to get his car posted to the Page. Photos reveal that the car is not really a GTA, but I feel that the fellow is not going to be "receptive" to my assessment of that fact. After five emails from him today alone, I sent this email reply a little bit ago....

"Larry, I don't know what to tell you.... but I don't like where the discussion is going.

An authentic title will not tell you if the car is a GTA. Neither of my two cars' title has that notation on it.... they don't even say "Trans Am" on them.... only "Firebird". Other documentation is required to ascertain the actual identity of a GTA.

If your car says that on the title and on the inside of the door, that is highly suspect... as GTAs came with no such identification from the factory. Even my red car's original MSO said "Firebird Trans Am" only....

Some of the obvious physical discrepancies I see are:

1) the car you sent me pictures of does not have the AQ9 GTA-standard articulating bucket seats.

2) the car has a carmine red interior which was not offered with the GTA option in 1988.... it was offered on the base Trans Am only.

3) the car does not have the 1988-specific steering wheel with included audio controls.

4) the car does not have the power mirror controls on the console.... which were standard on GTA models.

5) the car does have the fender vents on the lower front fenders which were not used on GTAs.... they were used on the base Trans Am only.

Does your car still have the RPO sticker inside the console glovebox? If so, look at it. I fear that you have a car that somebody put GTA emblems on in order to try to improve their selling chances.... a common occurrence nowadays. It appears that none of the real identifying "marks" of a GTA are present in your car.

Lastly, yes, the GTA was indeed a Trans Am option.

But this particular webpage relates to GTAs alone.... I can't tell you how many other people I have told the same thing I'm telling you here... if I ever break down and post or feature one single base Trans Am, then I have no longer have an option not to do the same for every one that is submitted to me. There's no way I can do that.... and stay true to the GTA owners, which are the focus in the first place. There are plenty of other websites that cater to all F-bodies, both Pontiac and Chevrolet.

I apologize if my position is not understandable to you.

Regards,

Frankie Rider, II
Administrator,
The GTA Source Page
www.gtasourcepage.com"

Is that too harsh of an assessment in your judgment? I don't want to hack the fellow off, but I have to get across that his car is not eligible for The Source Page.... Whadda' ya think?

Ozzy88GTA
09-04-2005, 05:20 AM
Not at all. I think that your explanation has been truthfull and candid. I do hate to hear that he was misled by someone into thinking his car was a GTA, but we have seen this same situation quite often in the past. And it always seems a little too late when someone buys a special model car without researching it first.
I do hope that if he is in the pursuit of an original GTA that he does find one. He does sound pasionate about GTAs just like most of us here.

-Ozzy

FearThisGTA
09-04-2005, 07:30 AM
I agree, and and most greatful for your stance on this particular subject. I hope he finds a real GTA in the future and it can be featured here. Once again Frankie thank you for your hard work and dedication to the GTA's.

twobirds
09-04-2005, 10:01 AM
That sounds good to me, he should get the picture. Good work Frankie!

StrokedGTA88
09-05-2005, 12:05 PM
Fankie ya gotz a tuff job but you dun it well keep it up ! I do feel sorry for that guy as the last people said but it is a GTA page and it also offers some insight into what the GTA really looks like.

Fred91GTA
09-05-2005, 12:31 PM
I think that was candid and well put Frankie. If I were on the recieving end of the E-mail, I would appreciate the candor and level of reason in the letter. It was very professional and well written. I'd rather just recieve one of your letters rather than get a letter that says "Yo, your GTA is a fake @$$ POS!!!!

MunsonGTA
09-05-2005, 12:44 PM
he should have done some research before buying the car and just expecting it to be a GTA

nblanchard
09-05-2005, 02:05 PM
Poor guy.. thats all I can say... I am glad I found this site before I bought my GTA... defiantely kept me from being let down

350TPI
09-05-2005, 08:15 PM
ITs funny,i have never seen an "obviously" fake GTA.Has anyone else ever gone to look at one only to be looking at a badge job?I have looked at a lot of fake IROCs though and actually bought one although it was a vert and was cheap.I knew it was fake but i think the owner didnt.He kept calling it a california IROC which i know they made but this thing had the L03!!!

FearThisGTA
09-05-2005, 08:47 PM
Mine was just the oposite when I found mine. The dealership had it list as a "Trans Am" and NOT a GTA and it was $2500.00 cheaper than estimated value. I jumped on it that day.